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« on: 27 July 2010, 11:47:35 AM »

edging ever closer, season ticket and spurs ticket arrived in the post this am. 3 cups and the league to win this season!
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Re: season
« Reply #1 on: 27 July 2010, 06:14:09 PM »

3 cups and the league to win this season!

Don't start that - You'll have them going on and on about "patience" again.
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Re: season
« Reply #2 on: 27 July 2010, 08:05:29 PM »

probably like you i was there in 76, so patience is starting to run a little thin  :P
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« Reply #3 on: 27 July 2010, 09:54:30 PM »

probably like you i was there in 76, so patience is starting to run a little thin  :P

Thin? Running thin? My patience is bloody negative!!
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Re: season
« Reply #4 on: 28 July 2010, 08:58:46 PM »

Pah you glory hunters don't know you're born...  ;)

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Re: season
« Reply #5 on: 30 July 2010, 12:15:38 AM »

We'll win f**k all this season, that's my prediction, far too much upheaval, and most only interested in the $$$$$$$
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Re: season
« Reply #6 on: 30 July 2010, 12:16:20 AM »

We'll win f**k all this season...

Spot the difference !
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« Reply #7 on: 30 July 2010, 07:07:16 PM »

... instead of ,  :o
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Re: season
« Reply #8 on: 30 July 2010, 07:24:22 PM »

We'll win f**k all this season...

Spot the difference !

More optimistic than usual?  ;)

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Re: season
« Reply #9 on: 05 August 2010, 02:29:54 PM »

We'll win f**k all this season...

Spot the difference !

More optimistic than usual?  ;)

ctid

Yeah much more optimistic....
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Re: season
« Reply #10 on: 06 August 2010, 04:59:17 PM »

We'll win f**k all this season,
That's a bit of a gloomy prediction Paul  :-X  Why so?
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« Reply #11 on: 08 August 2010, 01:45:32 AM »

We'll win f**k all this season,
That's a bit of a gloomy prediction Paul  :-X  Why so?

That's easy enough Dizzy....

....far too much upheaval, and most only interested in the $$$$$$$

Sadly that's where I think we are as a club.

I don't think I've ever felt so detached from the club I love to be honest.

"City are ruining football" according to the media, but for me I just can't help feeling more that ADUG are ruining the City I loved, they are making it stupidly expensive for the ordinary fan, and looking to become the new united (prawn sandwich), and the players are mostly mercenaries who couldn't give a toss for the fans.

Money money money.

I hope that by next Monday when we play Liverpool (I'm not being robbed by Spurs) that my mood has changed a bit.
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« Reply #12 on: 08 August 2010, 10:16:28 AM »

I don't want to suggest our pricing is anything less than extortionate, but it's not expensive when compared to any other Prem club that can sell 90% of the tickets. - Sunderland is cheap because they have a big ground and a price-sensitive fan base. I'm sure they'd charge more if they couldget away with it.
I've seen a forum post from a West Ham fan claiming their CHEAPEST are £51, though I'm not sure if this was for a specific high-risk game. Any we paid £40 and Brum and West Brom while their fans paid just two-thirds of that at CoMS - we're playing catch up.
ADUG are at least trying to give some fans more of what they want (or what they think they should want) with silly child-related gimmicks.
The game has been mainly about money for a long time (ie before the Prem started in 1992) but has become even more dominated by cash over the last couple of decades. If ADUG's actions lead to a trophy or several I'll be happy, if it lead to us signing five non-gelling, global brand-enhancing, shirt-salesmen every summer I'll be mightily pissed off.
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Re: season
« Reply #13 on: 08 August 2010, 12:20:23 PM »

....far too much upheaval, and most only interested in the $$$$$$$
I should have read the rest of your post  ;)
I totally understand why you feel detached, it does seem as though the ordinary fan is being sidelined.  Most ordinary fans just want to go and see their beloved football club turn up, play well, and a chance to get out of the house for the day.
... but for me I just can't help feeling more that ADUG are ruining the City I loved
 
Agree with that too.  Certainly don't think ADUG are ruining football - that's already been done.  Short term it will be fantastic for City to win the premiership, and pots, but really, at what price to the true footie fan?
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« Reply #14 on: 08 August 2010, 01:30:16 PM »

but for me I just can't help feeling more that ADUG are ruining the City I loved, they are making it stupidly expensive for the ordinary fan, and looking to become the new united (prawn sandwich), and the players are mostly mercenaries who couldn't give a toss for the fans.

They are ruining a bunch of useless, under achieving, f*ck-muppets who've needed are rocket up their collective arses for over three decades. The rot at the club has been there for over 30 years. Swales possibly was responsible for some of it but neither he nor Lee did anything to stop it. Wardle and Barnstein may have steadied the ship but we were still heading for the icebergs after a couple of years at CoMS despite increased gates.
The rot was so deep that we needed this sort of investment (or at least the level Thaksin promised) to prevent a slow but sure decline. Let's not forget what came before the first major takeover: ten home league goals in a season and so few people renewing S/Ts that the club had to give them away to kids at £95 quid a go.
We may have been a nice cuddly club at the time (and everybody's second favourite because we didn't represent a threat) but we were a feckin' basket case.
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« Reply #15 on: 08 August 2010, 05:13:32 PM »

ADUG have done exactly what needed to be done to put us in a position to actually compete in this division and it is typical City that we're still not happy. I'm sure there will be enough Typical City moments but I for one after nearly 30 years of 2nd 3rd 4th best and fook all else I am quite glad to see what's happening, we actually have half a fookin clue what we want to do and how we're going to do it.

Season tickets are still amongst the cheapest in the Prem, those that can only attend a few matches a season will continue to pick and choose no matter the price and we now have Prem prices for these tickets, we have an entire area for the kids (plus stuff to keep them entertained), we are gearing up for the plastics that will jump on board, pretty much everyone else can continue to do what they want and we have a squad of players the like most of us have never seen...oooh the hardship, the club is what you make it the game is what you make it the day is what you make it!

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« Reply #16 on: 08 August 2010, 07:17:54 PM »

paul, on the bright side, we sit next to the new corperates i think, if they bring in heated seats, then when its mid winter and they clear off early we can go and toast our arses!  :o
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« Reply #17 on: 08 August 2010, 08:34:46 PM »

it is typical City that we're still not happy.
I'm happy. I have absolutely no time whatsoever for the arguments of the likes of Schindler and Hattenstone that we were somehow better off when we were shit. I can be nostalgic as much as anybody for the atmosphere of the old Kippax terrace, the Football Pink and £10 season tickets. I'm also nostalgic for the football of those days, cos we were good back then. But I'm not nostalgic for standing in shite grounds with a shite view and running battles outside and inside the ground, on and off the pitch. And I'm not nostalgic for the years in the wilderness from when Swales finally gave up his ambitions and made it clear we were a selling club, which I date to when we sold Trevor Francis; to the sale of the club to Thaksin, rogue that he was, who enabled the ADUG takeover and finally ended our time as a selling club. Because in all those years, we were simply never likely to achieve success, because we could never afford it. It has always been necessary to have the ability to spend a lot of money to succeed in football, that was not invented by Sky or the Premier League. Colin Bell was not a youth product, we bought him from Bury. Mike Summerbee was not a youth product, we bought him from Swindon for £35,000. Francis Lee was not a youth product, we bought him from Bolton, for £60,000 which was a club record, and a tidy sum back then. Having been brought up on a City team which won trophies I'd kind of like to see that sort of thing again before I cark it.

I also don't buy this players as mercenaries argument. Those players who have shown loyalty to just one club and played for the club they support have always been a small minority - the vast majority of footballers play for what they get paid. The only reason I get out of bed in the morning and go to work is because they pay me to do it, and I'm loyal to my present employers to the extent that I do it to the best of my ability. However, if somebody else offers me more money to do it I'll do it for them instead, and I'd be a bloody fool to do otherwise, all other things being equal. I don't expect footballers to do behave any differently - provided they do their job to the best of their ability I expect no more loyalty than that. I'll do the full loyalty bit, I'm a fan, that's what I do - they just need to play as well as they can, that's what they do, or should.

Carlos Tevez plays his bloody socks off for us, and used to play his bloody socks off for the dark side, and before that for Wet Spam. Is he a mercenary? Or is he just a damned good footballer who gives his all when he runs onto the pitch? Bell, Lee and Summerbee are inextricably linked with our successful years, and are still closely linked with the club - ask them now, they're City fans. But when they came they were not - I think they'd tell you that they transferred here because they thought it would further their careers, because they thought they'd be more likely to win trophies. And I bet they all got a pay rise.

I don't agree with everything that the club has done since ADUG took over, I'm not particularly fond of the way we are trying to attract the prawn sandwich brigade, nor do I like the way the club imposed the Blue Peter stand on us, but if you want to compete at the top in the Premiership you have to allow a bit of realpolitik, and in all fairness they do seem to be striving (not always successfully) not to disenfranchise the existing fanbase. My Seasoncard went up this season, but not unreasonably, and it is still compares well to other Premiership clubs - it works out at £26.32 a game which I think is pretty reasonable value for a seat on the half way line in a bloody nice stadium to watch a team which is likely to be competing for honours and contains some fantastic players.

Initiative after initiative is intended to make us all feel included, and whilst some may find names on the spirals or "Why Blues" on the concourse or City Square a waste of time and money, to me it shows that the club is making a real effort - far more effort than any other club from what I can see. We all bitched when we moved into CoMS how the ground looked grey and soul-less and didn't seem to belong to us - anybody who went last night knows that's no longer true - yet I've heard people whinging that Joe Mercer way looks stupid painted blue, that City Square is a waste of time. Yes, they get it wrong, all the time, they piss us off, all the time, yes, every time Cook opens his mouth he puts his foot in it, but they do listen, and they do at least try to keep us happy, and I give them credit for that.

I've been complaining to anybody who'll listen that I don't much like Family Stands or corporate heated seats or pies at £3 a time, that I don't want City to improve my "Matchday Experience" through plasma screens and clowns and buskers - I want them to improve my experience by improving what I see on the pitch.

And what I saw on the pitch last night were quality footballers who I couldn't ever have dreamed of in a sky blue shirt before the takeover. Would we want to swap Carlos Tevez for George Samaras? Emanuel Adebayour for Bernado Corradi? Yaya Toure for Ousmane Dabo? David Silva for Claudio Reyna? Jerome Boateng for Danny Mills? Yeah, I could have compared with Ali Bernarbia and Eyal Berbatov, but while they got us into the Premiership, they couldn't take us on from there.

Here,I'll make it easy, I'll make it even more stark. Who do you want to see taking our set-pieces, Alexander Kolarov, mercenary Serb from an Italian team, or Joey Barton, Englishman and product of our own academy?

No, I'm a happy blue, I'm looking forward to the season, I've not felt so optimistic about City since the early 1970s. Maybe our new players won't "gel." I doubt they'll all succeed. But if they do - there's some fooking cracking footballers in our squad, as good as we've had in decades. I have no doubt I'll have lots of reasons to be pissed off during the season, but am I happy? No need to ask.
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« Reply #18 on: 08 August 2010, 10:00:14 PM »

Right, okay, I was looking through some old stuff I've saved and found something relevant to this discussion. Sometimes I keep a post if it was something I felt strongly about, or if it got a very strong reaction.

Back in 2007, when we'd just been knocked out of the cup in the quarters by Blackburn and the team hadn't turned up again, things were getting heated on the forums. It was on Wookies that Ealing (is Ealing here?) posed the question why did people get so wound up about City.

Read my response, and then tell me you preferred things the way they were before.

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There have been several issues raised here. Firstly, the attitude of the fans. It seems to me that there are three types of reactions.

Let's deal first with the drink-fuelled muppets, of whom we thankfully see little on here, probably because they are insufficiently literate to register with a forum and if they ever managed it would regard us as a load of boring old farts. Football has always attracted large numbers of idiots. They are idiots when they go out in town on a Saturday night, they are idiots at work, and they are idiots at the match. Football is just a place they can go to be idiots together.

We've all seen them, they arrive at the match so drunk they can't possibly appreciate it, they are noisy in their support mainly because they enjoy a bit of communal singing, preferably abusive, and if things go wrong they turn in fury on their "heroes." I don't think we have any on Wookies, I think we all agree that they're a pain in the arse, I think that all football teams have them, and I don't think they are worthy of our further consideration.

Tnen there are the sort we have lots of on here, and I count myself amongst them. I speak only for myself now, but I know that what I'm about to say will ring a chord with many of you, because I've seen what you have to say here, because I've met many of you, and I know you share these feelings. I am absolutely passionate about football, in particular, I am absolutely passionate about Manchester City. Please don't ask me to rationalise this, I can't, it isn't rational, it's emotional. I think City are special, but I'm sure that fans of every football team feel the same way about their own team.

It matters to me when we win, it matters to me when we lose, it matters to me whether we play well or badly - it really, really bloody matters. I know, rationally, that Shankly was wrong - it ISN'T a matter of life or death, it's nowhere near as important as that - but whilst it's happening, while the game is afoot, it feels that important, or it does to me. I submerge myself in the game - when we score, I'm ecstatic, when we concede, I'm desolate. I can't help it, it's an emotional reaction, and it's so much the stronger when I go to the game than when I watch more remotely, because my reactions are mirrored by thousands around me.

It's a tribal thing, for sure - I gloat in song with everybody else over the other tribe when we score, I'm resentful of them when they score. And it's a cathartic thing - it's enormously satisfying to let those emotions out in an arena where it's accepted. It's not accepted to rant and rave over minor irritations in everyday life, nor is it accepted to jump around and cheer over some minor triumph at work, but at the footie - well, it's what you do.

And when I see the team I've supported since I was a kid not performing - I'm not talking about losing here, I can live with that - but when I see players who are paid more in a week than I can earn in a year turning up and simply not "putting in a shift" as Pearce calls it, it annoys and frustrates me. And conversely, when I see players who are working their bollox off but clearly don't have the brains or the talent to play effectively, it annoys and frustrates me. I want to watch players who have some skill, who can entertain me, and at the same time, I want them to turn up and do their jobs to the best of their ability. I want to enjoy watching a football match.

I don't scream vitriol, but I do get wound up and frustrated. When I've looked forward to a match all week, spent money I can ill afford to watch these men who are paid to entertain me, even though I may have low expectations, when they fail to perform their jobs adequately - yes, I get wound up and frustrated. And when I see the man who is paid a lot of money to organise, train, motivate and select those players making decisions that are frankly perverse, and then failing to justify his decisions and instead resorting to unintelligent platitudes, then yes, I get wound up and frustrated.

But it's not the end of the world. I don't spew vitriol, you won't see me on TV with my face contorted with hate, I don't get into arguments with anybody (well, only civilized discussion type arguments), I don't boo our own players. And I come on here and whinge endlessly about it, because here is where I find people who feel the same way about City as I do, here is where we can discuss our shared hopes, fears and opinions. Here is where I feel I am understood (yes, of course my wife understands me - she's a Blue!) But I'll have a laugh about it too - on Sunday I was screaming, "Give them more space, give them more time!" and all the time I was thinking of this place and picturing myself waving a little flag with a picture of an iron on it. But let nobody try to dismiss my passion, or diminish it - I care about City, and I don't care what anybody else thinks about that. But, and this is essential to understand - it's NOT just about winning, it's about how we go about it.

But for me, and I think for people like me, the last season and a half have been one long exercise in being wound up and frustrated. It's just been too long since we have seen our team consistently play entertaining football, or winning football, or any description of good football. We have watched a collection of hard-working but ultimately not terribly talented journeymen, talented but disinterested mercenaries, and a few, but not enough, hard-working AND talented players who carry the other lot, being serially mis-managed and gradually deteriorating and becoming more despondent, their confidence ever more fragile. We have watched them slide ever closer to relegation, in this season of all seasons when we really can't afford to go down. We have seen them capitulate once too often, ye gods and little fishes, we have watched some seriously sh1te football and we've tried, I've tried, God how I've tried, to put a brave face on it, and be cheerful and upbeat and optimistic, and get behind them, and rouse the rabble - and eventually it all .... just .... boils ...... over.

It's like those days you have sometimes - you oversleep, you forget to switch the kettle on and make a brew with cold water, you can't find your car keys, the traffic is awful, you seem to get one dingbat after another cutting you up on the way to work, once you get to work nothing goes right, people are ringing you up and mithering you and blaming you for stuff that isn't your fault, the traffic is sh1te again on the way home, you have to queue for ages doing a bit of shopping on the way home because some mad old bint can't sort her change out and the assistant is a refugee from the planet Thicko, you get in and the dog has been sick on the carpet, then your other half walks in and says something quite innocent and inoffensive and next thing you know you're having a big argument in which you know you're in the wrong but you can't stop yourself and you know you're going to have to buy flowers or chocolates the next day. Well, I have days like that sometimes, and that's what this season has felt like to me.

And there's a third kind of reaction - remember the three reactions I was talking about half an hour back? Keep up now! It's more dispassionate, and although I understand it, it's not how I feel about City. People in this category want City to do well, they're as blue as anybody else, but the results are that bit less important, they're a little more distanced (I'm not talking about Oz here, Ealing, this is about feelings, not geography) and less emotional. For sure, they want us to succeed, but ultimately they are just happy to be able to watch us play. Or they enjoy analysing the techniques and tactics of a match. And perhaps to those who feel this way, things are a little less black and white - when we win, they are up, when we lose, they are down - but not quite as up or down as some.

So, what about the players, showing fight and passion? I don't expect them to show the kind of passion I have, to be honest. They're footballers, not football fans. It's lovely when you get it, and you sometimes do - players that really care about the team they play for, who really relate to the fans, who will play their hearts out. It helps a bit if they're any good, obviously. But there's no reason why Bernardo Corradi, or Ousmane Dabo, to choose two examples, should care passionately about Manchester City. I chose those two not because of how they play, but because I've talked to them, and I asked them who, if anybody, they supported. And I can't remember what they said, but they both supported football teams from their home countries, they both went to watch them as kids. Why would they have any special emotional connection with City?

But (and I'm not just talking about these two now) players should have SOME emotional attachment - they are part of a team, and a team should be prepared to go into battle in their chosen field for each other. I defend members of my department at work if I feel they are being attacked by people from outside, and I do my best during my working day to ensure that my department operates as best as it can. And I do the same for the company I work for as a whole. If another company came in and offered me more money to do the same job, I'd be off, but in the meantime I play for the team I play for, and I do my best for them.

And that's what I expect from anybody who turns out in a blue shirt for City. I expect them to turn up and do their job to the best of their ability. And whilst I don't expect this next, I want it - I want them to be a better team than other teams - they're MY team. I want to feel proud of my team, I want to look at the fans of other teams and be able to say, hand on heart, "We're better than you. We've got better players, we've got a better team, we've got better fans, we've got a better ground - we're just better." And I want to go and watch my team and come away feeling uplifted, I want to feel that I've seen something special, that I've seen top sportsmen demonstrating their skills.

And I want us to fecking WIN something - something meaningful. And meaningful to a City fan, is a proper trophy, or at least a European place (not for the meaningless matches against teams we've never heard of, but for the achievement itself). I don't think that's an unreasonable expectation, we've done it in the past, I remember it, I remember what it felt like, and I want to feel like that again. Despite our current financial situation, we are a big city club with a large fanbase and a Premiership ground and structure (not talking about the board here) and other clubs with no more resources than us, like Bolton, Blackburn, Middlesbrough seem to be able to achieve this - why not City?

In order for us to achieve this, we need our board, our manager, our players to share this ambition, and to act as though they are aiming and able to achieve it. In all honesty, I don't doubt for a moment that they DO share that ambition, but sometimes they've got a funny way of showing it. I want our manager to at least give the appearance of knowing what his best team is, of getting them up for the game, of choosing appropriate tactics and substitutions. I want our players to look like they've actually been training, that they understand their jobs and can do them effectively, I want to see defenders who can defend, attackers who can attack, midfielders who can, erm, midfield. And whilst, as I've said, I don't expect them to demonstrate the level of emotional investment that we as fans have, I DO expect them to look like they want it, to look like they're up for it, I don't expect them to just look like they're turning up to pay the petrol bill on their Ferraris and ponce about in diamond ear-rings.

And if they do that, in return, they can expect my unswerving support. They can expect me to be there, week in, week out, come rain, come shine, and scream my stupid head off encouraging them, they can expect me to sing their names all day long (provided they don't insist on having silly names that don't scan or rhyme with anything). In fact, even if they don't, I still will. I'm that stupid.

So, after Wigan, after Blackburn, after all that's gone before, I'm pretty comprehensively p1ssed off right now. But come Wednesday night, I'll be in my usual seat in CoMS. And I'll be fully expecting us to lose - but thinking we might just win. I'll be fully expecting us to play badly, if I'm honest - but thinking we might just come out and look the business. But whichever, I'll still be there, screaming, "Come on Joey," or "Come on Darius," or "Come on whoever." And I'll be singing Blue Moon, and chanting "Come on City" if we get a corner. And in between, I'll whinge to my mate next to me. It's what I do. And if, as I fully expect, we lose, I'll still be gutted. I won't boo them, however bad they may be, but I'll still be gutted. And I'll wonder why I go, why the feck I put myself through the emotional wringer, over and again - I'm nearly 50 bloody years old, it's time I grew up. But I can't help growing old, I'll be fecked if I have to grow up. So I'll get back to the car, and I'll say to Ged, "What time are we leaving for Boro on Satdi?" And so it goes on.
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Re: season
« Reply #19 on: 09 August 2010, 07:17:19 PM »

ADUG have done exactly what needed to be done to put us in a position to actually compete in this division and it is typical City that we're still not happy.

i'm so happy i feel like a pig in shit!  :-\  we now have the team/squad that can at least compete on an almost level playing field with the top 4/5/6 (and we have enough small change to pay the refs like the rest of them)

 I'm sure there will be enough Typical City moments

london away games, i'm always piss*d,  >:( sure there will be, whats the betting we lose to spurs and still win the league!  8)

Season tickets are still amongst the cheapest in the Prem

£430, my cut off point is £500, then with all the travel i may be priced out, but, it may be a big but, i may win the lottery  ;)

 the club is what you make it the game is what you make it the day is what you make it!

FOOTBALL has always been about what YOU make it, we've seen all the shite years, lets enjoys some really good ones


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« Reply #20 on: 10 August 2010, 12:33:28 AM »

Sorry if I don't conform to the norm, its just how I feel.

I want us to win stuff, I've wanted that for f**king decades, so that didn't change, but I didn't want to out spend Chel$ki 10 fold doing it. However if that is the way we have to go, then that is the way we have to go I guess. I think we could have done it with a little more humility though.

My biggest gripe however is prices of everything (and yes season cards for most are currently still reasonable compared to other clubs, but I don't give a f**k about other clubs, why should any blue ?). I don't buy pies or pints in the ground, because quality and service is utter shite (not ADUGs fault its been this way for years), and better is available within easy walking distance (an own goal by the club in my opinion), but its about the price of tickets, both now and in the future. Firstly the 6% "average" increase was wrong, in a recession when folk have LESS money (me included), at a time when inflation was considerably less than 6%, 2 or 3 % yes, but not 6%. However it was also a f**ling huge lie for quite a few, and overall. I know of people (concessions admittedly, but pensioners) who have seen a 60% increase to keep their seat, it wasn't of their own making, and that's just not right, especially if it is to ensure our new corporates the better seats, and don't be under any illusions that this is not what's going on, it may take a couple of years, but its happening.

Not everyone has the disposable income to buy a seasoncard, and for those that don't, they ARE being priced out of all but the Wigan type game (£50 for a Monday night game on live TV is an outrage for me), is it only me that feels this is just wrong ? These are supporters who have been with us through thin and thinner, and have already had to give up seasoncards, so now they are being asked to pay the same as Londoners for home games. I personally think they deserve better than that, the whole family stand thing was very badly handled (and personally I'm happy to lose the younger kids by the way, as many are a pain in the arse), but forcing good folk into the east and west stand seats in the upper tier, and increasing their prices by up to 60% was just wrong.

Then there are these fan surveys, all very well, just to make it look like the club care, but when it comes down to it, they are just lip service, they won't change things the way we want, the only "fan experience" I'm interested in, is a winning, attractive team, which obviously they are also trying to build, but if its at the expense of the ordinary supporter it makes me sad.

The emphasis on so called "fan experience" has only just started ! In reality it means "ragdom", bigger superstore, more one off tourists, more prawn sandwich fans, and less ordinary fan = bigger revenue, and this is the key.

ADUG are not a charity, and its time we all woke up to this, they know that UEFA won't allow them to play ball unless they pay for the squad we have through revenue, and sadly that will be at the expense of many of us.

ADUG and Garry Cook couldn't care less, they want a winning club, but the seats have to filled by those who pay the most.

Sadly.

Doom and gloom you may think, but lets see where we are IFwe finally win a couple of pots.


Grumpy of Oxfordshire.

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PS - I'm not convinced we will under RM, with any number of superstars in the squad  ;)
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« Reply #21 on: 10 August 2010, 01:52:49 PM »

Some great posts on this thread. 
A lot of fans don't like change even if it is for the financial betterment of their club. 
I suspect our Grumpy of Oxfordshire will still go to matches but will increase his grumpiness appropriately.  :o
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« Reply #22 on: 11 August 2010, 11:12:40 PM »

Oh yes Dizzy seasoncard is bought (if not paid for - thanks barclaycard for the continued interest free credit card). I'm still looking forward to the games, especially the Europa League first home game (tickets bought), I even looked into going to Romania, but its too expensive and too long winded a trip.

Supporting your club is different to how you feel about the finances involved, its more about the people I know (even Jeff  ;) ), and the being part of it all, that matters more than the individuals on the pitch. I don't have any empathy much for the players or coaching staff (could anyone have any for david platt ?), just the blue and white "team".

Hard to describe, but every footfall supporter who follows their team knows what I mean.

City had to have all this change otherwise it was f**ked once and for all, if we'd gone down under Pearce I don't think we'd ever have come back, so I know it had to happen somehow. I thank mad frank, for giving us all a good laugh, but at least he found someone who could take us on. I just have to find a way to adjust to it, and find a way to still "support" something I don't actually feel that comfortable with, as I said above I think we could do it with a little more humility, at least until we have actually achieved something other than the biggest bank balance, we might as well have the biggest floodlights.....oh wait we once did.
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« Reply #23 on: 14 August 2010, 01:44:57 AM »

Count yourself lucky you didn't get the tattoo like some of us did  ;D
We were the biggest cult band in the world for so long, it's very difficult getting used to being over comercialised isn't it? As someone famous should once have said: Cups without tragedy? Not us!

Despite the yammerillions, the real City are still hiding, alive and well somewhere inside "the project" waiting to bite us on the arse. You just see if we somehow don't cock it up. It's what we do. I'm enjoying the up part of the ride while it lasts. You know and I know that City, somehow, someway, will eventually blow all this into smithereens (or will they, you never know with us) - just as we know we'll still be here when they do cos we love it.

We finally signed Balotelli today, hope he's half as good as the hype surrounding him...
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« Reply #24 on: 14 August 2010, 09:49:18 AM »

That there South is overcast, giddiness rating of 11...C'mon you Blue Boys!

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